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	<title>Comments on: Former 19th St. Gym to Reopen as Complete Body &amp; Spa</title>
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		<title>By: Cory Santiago</title>
		<link>http://kellynford.com/2010/01/17/former-19th-st-gym-to-reopen-as-complete-body-and-spa/#comment-384</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cory Santiago]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MISPLACED BLAME!

I realize people are upset, I can understand that, I would be too! My question goes towards the person/persons looking to recoup their lost moneys from the new owners. They had nothing to do with the reason your out and were short changed by a less than honorable business owner.

 So you seek to take revenge on the person/group who is proactively trying to improve a bad situation. 

What do you hope to gain? 

If you knew that by sticking it to the new owners would  bankrupt or ruin the efforts to continue supplying gym services to you and ensure personal fitness in the best way possible you would really be willing to do that? 

Lose out on a gym in that location with all that history all together and ruin the opportunity for everyone else? 

I feel as though your animosity is misplaced, especially when the new owner actively listens to it&#039;s consumers and is willing to work with them to lessen the financial blows, take any and all advice and suggestions you may have on the matter, and makes a point to respond! (rare in a lot of cases)

FOCUS ON HOW TO MAKE THE NEW GYM BETTER NOT HOW TO MAKE A BAD SITUATION WORSE!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MISPLACED BLAME!</p>
<p>I realize people are upset, I can understand that, I would be too! My question goes towards the person/persons looking to recoup their lost moneys from the new owners. They had nothing to do with the reason your out and were short changed by a less than honorable business owner.</p>
<p> So you seek to take revenge on the person/group who is proactively trying to improve a bad situation. </p>
<p>What do you hope to gain? </p>
<p>If you knew that by sticking it to the new owners would  bankrupt or ruin the efforts to continue supplying gym services to you and ensure personal fitness in the best way possible you would really be willing to do that? </p>
<p>Lose out on a gym in that location with all that history all together and ruin the opportunity for everyone else? </p>
<p>I feel as though your animosity is misplaced, especially when the new owner actively listens to it&#8217;s consumers and is willing to work with them to lessen the financial blows, take any and all advice and suggestions you may have on the matter, and makes a point to respond! (rare in a lot of cases)</p>
<p>FOCUS ON HOW TO MAKE THE NEW GYM BETTER NOT HOW TO MAKE A BAD SITUATION WORSE!</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Ford</title>
		<link>http://kellynford.com/2010/01/17/former-19th-st-gym-to-reopen-as-complete-body-and-spa/#comment-325</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kelly Ford]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 15:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good luck with the AG&#039;s office.  I wrote to them last November when this first went down.  Several months went by and I finally got a letter saying &quot;this business appears to have gone bankrupt.&quot;  No shit.  There is precedent for them going after health clubs which aggressively sold bad memberships but I guess this instance isn&#039;t interesting enough for them to pursue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck with the AG&#8217;s office.  I wrote to them last November when this first went down.  Several months went by and I finally got a letter saying &#8220;this business appears to have gone bankrupt.&#8221;  No shit.  There is precedent for them going after health clubs which aggressively sold bad memberships but I guess this instance isn&#8217;t interesting enough for them to pursue.</p>
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		<title>By: Ex 19th Street Gym Member</title>
		<link>http://kellynford.com/2010/01/17/former-19th-st-gym-to-reopen-as-complete-body-and-spa/#comment-324</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ex 19th Street Gym Member]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 22:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am a formal member and my partner was one as well.  We both got cheated out from closing of 19th Street Gym.  I was surprised that some of the older equipment is a part of the new gym.  I have a question:  inheriting or purchasing ANYTHING from a defunct business and use the purchase as a part of the operating new business is ILLEGAL.  It is called &quot;Fraudulent Transaction.&quot; Creditors of the defunct business HAVE to be compensated first, and that includes all proceeds from any transactions.  A new business CANNOT buy or inherit ANYTHING from a defunct or bankrupt business.  Doing so allows creditors to take the new business, not the defunct one, to court. Ex members of 19th Street Gym are technically creditors and can take the new gym to court, as an individual or as a group.  What do you have to say about this or should someone call the Attorney General?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a formal member and my partner was one as well.  We both got cheated out from closing of 19th Street Gym.  I was surprised that some of the older equipment is a part of the new gym.  I have a question:  inheriting or purchasing ANYTHING from a defunct business and use the purchase as a part of the operating new business is ILLEGAL.  It is called &#8220;Fraudulent Transaction.&#8221; Creditors of the defunct business HAVE to be compensated first, and that includes all proceeds from any transactions.  A new business CANNOT buy or inherit ANYTHING from a defunct or bankrupt business.  Doing so allows creditors to take the new business, not the defunct one, to court. Ex members of 19th Street Gym are technically creditors and can take the new gym to court, as an individual or as a group.  What do you have to say about this or should someone call the Attorney General?</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Reznik</title>
		<link>http://kellynford.com/2010/01/17/former-19th-st-gym-to-reopen-as-complete-body-and-spa/#comment-312</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex Reznik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please join us tonight Monday, April 19th, from 6-9 pm for a fun filled night to celebrate the grand opening of the new location at 19th Street, start getting in shape for spring and raise money for Marriage Equality New York’s Political Action Committee (MENY PAC).

A variety of training and workout activities, complimentary food and drinks, and samples of Complete - Body &amp; Spa’s products and services will be available to guests. All proceeds from a Raffle will benefit MENY PAC.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please join us tonight Monday, April 19th, from 6-9 pm for a fun filled night to celebrate the grand opening of the new location at 19th Street, start getting in shape for spring and raise money for Marriage Equality New York’s Political Action Committee (MENY PAC).</p>
<p>A variety of training and workout activities, complimentary food and drinks, and samples of Complete &#8211; Body &amp; Spa’s products and services will be available to guests. All proceeds from a Raffle will benefit MENY PAC.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Frantellizzi</title>
		<link>http://kellynford.com/2010/01/17/former-19th-st-gym-to-reopen-as-complete-body-and-spa/#comment-301</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Frantellizzi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 19:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was there on opening day when Gladys, Tony, etc. were training and Dolph Lundren was working out next to me... It was a great place to train back in the day. I hope some of that old glory is restored, along with some SPA options to appeal to a more current demographic. Good luck Alex.

Paul]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was there on opening day when Gladys, Tony, etc. were training and Dolph Lundren was working out next to me&#8230; It was a great place to train back in the day. I hope some of that old glory is restored, along with some SPA options to appeal to a more current demographic. Good luck Alex.</p>
<p>Paul</p>
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		<title>By: NoWayJose</title>
		<link>http://kellynford.com/2010/01/17/former-19th-st-gym-to-reopen-as-complete-body-and-spa/#comment-292</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NoWayJose]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was able to get a FULL refund of charges from November 2008.  I did not call - I wrote a letter stating that the charge was for services that were  not delivered/provided.  Included in the services not delivered/provided was the upgrades to the broken cardio equipment.  This worked, and the dispute was settled in my favor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was able to get a FULL refund of charges from November 2008.  I did not call &#8211; I wrote a letter stating that the charge was for services that were  not delivered/provided.  Included in the services not delivered/provided was the upgrades to the broken cardio equipment.  This worked, and the dispute was settled in my favor.</p>
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		<title>By: eysha</title>
		<link>http://kellynford.com/2010/01/17/former-19th-st-gym-to-reopen-as-complete-body-and-spa/#comment-251</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eysha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 20:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wondering if anyone has had issues in trying to file a claim dispute with their credit card companies to recoup $$ for services not delivered by 19th St??

I signed a contract for 10 personal training sessions before the thug management apparently skipped town without a word, and now i&#039;m out nearly $1k. I called Visa but they can&#039;t honor a dispute outside of 120 days of the charge (the training sessions were charged to my card about 4 months ago). They told me to call a lawyer. Ridiculous, considering that a lawyer&#039;s fee will likely amount to more than what i&#039;m owed!

Has anyone run in to a similar problem?? Any advice would be MUCH appreciated!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wondering if anyone has had issues in trying to file a claim dispute with their credit card companies to recoup $$ for services not delivered by 19th St??</p>
<p>I signed a contract for 10 personal training sessions before the thug management apparently skipped town without a word, and now i&#8217;m out nearly $1k. I called Visa but they can&#8217;t honor a dispute outside of 120 days of the charge (the training sessions were charged to my card about 4 months ago). They told me to call a lawyer. Ridiculous, considering that a lawyer&#8217;s fee will likely amount to more than what i&#8217;m owed!</p>
<p>Has anyone run in to a similar problem?? Any advice would be MUCH appreciated!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://kellynford.com/2010/01/17/former-19th-st-gym-to-reopen-as-complete-body-and-spa/#comment-249</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 01:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like the improvements to the gym, especially the cardio upgrade, but the name of the gym (Complete Body and Spa) really is not a great choice if you&#039;re looking to bring back most of the previous members. And having rejoined, I dont think the name reflects what the place has to offer in terms of extensive weightlifting equipment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the improvements to the gym, especially the cardio upgrade, but the name of the gym (Complete Body and Spa) really is not a great choice if you&#8217;re looking to bring back most of the previous members. And having rejoined, I dont think the name reflects what the place has to offer in terms of extensive weightlifting equipment.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Reznik</title>
		<link>http://kellynford.com/2010/01/17/former-19th-st-gym-to-reopen-as-complete-body-and-spa/#comment-246</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex Reznik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 01:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe there is a misunderstanding with what we are offering the former members of 19th Street and what we have advertised as our pre-opening special ($799 annual).  Previous members  have been given an average of 2 months and a few up to 6months additional, depending on how long they have been a member and how much time they had left on their membership. I invite everyone to come by and check the new space out for yourself and meet us before you make any assumptions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe there is a misunderstanding with what we are offering the former members of 19th Street and what we have advertised as our pre-opening special ($799 annual).  Previous members  have been given an average of 2 months and a few up to 6months additional, depending on how long they have been a member and how much time they had left on their membership. I invite everyone to come by and check the new space out for yourself and meet us before you make any assumptions.</p>
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		<title>By: NoWayJose</title>
		<link>http://kellynford.com/2010/01/17/former-19th-st-gym-to-reopen-as-complete-body-and-spa/#comment-245</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NoWayJose]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To Say &quot;I’m putting over $200.000 in renovations including new cardio, TVs, and spa. We will partially honor old memberships case by case, but it is going to be not more than 2 months.&quot; is totally insensitive and just bad business.  

While the new owner is putting in $200,000 that is VERY cheap to start a business in NYC.  You can&#039;t start a Subway franchise for less.  At the end of the day this gym will be the SAME gym with the needed improvements to the Cardio.  

Who cares about the Spa services, and those who do will pay for the services to pay for the additional cost.  

Call it what you will, but this is still a basement gym and will never be anything more.  With this &quot;generous&quot; offer of up to two months MAX, I sure hope that no one is foolish enough to return.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Say &#8220;I’m putting over $200.000 in renovations including new cardio, TVs, and spa. We will partially honor old memberships case by case, but it is going to be not more than 2 months.&#8221; is totally insensitive and just bad business.  </p>
<p>While the new owner is putting in $200,000 that is VERY cheap to start a business in NYC.  You can&#8217;t start a Subway franchise for less.  At the end of the day this gym will be the SAME gym with the needed improvements to the Cardio.  </p>
<p>Who cares about the Spa services, and those who do will pay for the services to pay for the additional cost.  </p>
<p>Call it what you will, but this is still a basement gym and will never be anything more.  With this &#8220;generous&#8221; offer of up to two months MAX, I sure hope that no one is foolish enough to return.</p>
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